Thomas,
Yes, I would not mind a decent Mac OS compiler as well. I used to think I would move
all of my work to MacOS, generally being a better OS that the others, but these days
I am to heavily involved with Linux to do that. In any case, I have all three types of
machines (and then some) here at my house, Windows, Linux and Mac, so its just
a matter of what I need at the moment. In any case, I have sympathy for your
position.
FPC certainly qualifies as a cross platform OS, and I believe it runs well on MacOS??
I have never tried it. In the past it was always a big deal to convert the source, but
nowadays, with the ISO 7185 mode, that should be a lot less work. It really depends
on FPC. I know with some other compilers, the ISO 7185 switch enabled standard
mode, but locked you into "ISO 7185 jail", ie, made it inconvienent or impossible to
use their extensions unless you drop the option, in which case most of your source
would not compile, etc. Perhaps someone with FPC experience could weigh in
here.
Believe me I have been there myself. I used to keep a file called "basicio.pas" where
I kept all of the nonstandard procedures used to access OS functions like open and
close files, etc. Then I would have one of those per compiler installation/vendor.
Because a lot of Pascal compiler makers had a string type that was incompatible
with pascal string types (which is in fact "packed array [1..xxx] of char") the open
file function often translated the Pascal string to whatever the string type was on
the particular implementation (point of fact there are things like that in Pascal-P6
to allow GPC calls).
Your association with P2C interests me. I used that to translate Pascal libraries
for Petit-Ami (another one of my projects). The tool is awful. It crashes if you give
it any sources that are even slightly wrong, and the (original) author takes pains
to mention in the documentation that he knows quite well about this and does not,
in fact, care. I wonder if you had improved that situation?
"I write scripts that call compilers with the parameters needed to
compile my programs. If the name of the compiler changes then the
scripts break."
Well, ok, but note that the name for my project is Pascal-P5, has been so for
10 years, and will always be named that. Pascal-P6 is a whole 'nuther beast
entirely. At my development rate (glacial) I don't think anyone is going to need
to rewrite their scripts a lot.
Regards,
Scott Franco
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: Plan to Update GPC
From: "Schneider, Thomas (NIH/NCI) [E]" <schneidt@mail.nih.gov>
Date: 8/13/20 8:28 am
To: "scott andrew franco" <samiam@moorecad.com>, "gpc@gnu.de" <gpc@gnu.de>
Scott:
I'm just looking for Pascal compilers that run on macOS. My programs
follow the original compilers in which the files listed at the top of
the program are directly read and written to by the Pascal program.
GPC used to do this. P2C (which I maintain apparently) translates to
C and then provides this. I don't know what ISO that corresponds to.
> For your second point, I assume you are talking about the
> Pascal-P1-P6 thing? (not sure I understand your point about "name
> change breaks the code")
I write scripts that call compilers with the parameters needed to
compile my programs. If the name of the compiler changes then the
scripts break. For example, if the Unix 'ls' command were named ls763
and then a new version were named ls764 lots of code would break.
> Can Pascal-P be used on the Mac? Well, actually yes. Pascal-P6
> includes sufficient tooling to port without GPC (see the interpreter
> written in C). I don't really push that capability because P6 is
> still in development, and also because interpreters are not really
> my thing (yes, I know that sounds funny). I like compilers. To me
> interpreters are more of a fun toy than not, although I note that
> there is a group pushing interpreters as "VM"s for professional use.
> Pascal-P5 has actually been written up as such. Again, not bad, just
> not my thing.
Ok, maybe when P6 is stablized and GPC independent it can be used to
compile on macOS.
> I should mention there is a branch from P5 known as P5c that that
> changed the compiler into a Pascal to C translator that accomplishes
> porting in a different way. You would have to look into that
> yourself, I'm not really up to speed on that.
That's interesting, thanks.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pascal-p5c/
Tom
Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
Senior Investigator
National Institutes of Health
National Cancer Institute
Center for Cancer Research
RNA Biology Laboratory
Biological Information Theory Group
Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201
schneidt@mail.nih.gov
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms