According to Jan-Jaap van der Heijden:
This is cut from a message by Robert Hoehne to the DJGPP mailing lists. Read and weep ;-(
Is this about Turbo Vision for C or for Pascal?
If it's for C, it would be a catastrophy for RHIDE!
If it's for Pascal, it's still sad, but ...
According to ... hmmm ... Robert Hoehne or Eric Pesik?
[...] You may also distribute your own Turbo Vision patches and bug-fixes so long as it is limited to your own code. However, you may not distribute the Turbo Vision source code without permission from Borland.
What we can do is to patch Turbo Vision for use with GPC and to distribute the patch. The `GNU patch' program works very reasonably, and 90% of those who intend to use TV with GPC will be Borland customers who have the TV source anyway.
Part of the reason Borland has not released Turbo Vision into the public domain is Turbo Vision remains an important and valuable feature of Borland's Turbo Pascal 7.0 for DOS, which is currently available from Borland.
That's a joke?
Turbo Pascal 7.0 is *dead* because it's no longer supported. That's one reson why we are working on GPC - a *living* compiler! What Borland still sells are parts of the corpse ... |~( <shudder>
Let us hope that they won't take away RHIDE from us! And let us work on something which will make the world forget that TV did ever exist! :-)
Peter
Dipl.-Phys. Peter Gerwinski, Essen, Germany, free physicist and programmer peter.gerwinski@uni-essen.de - http://home.pages.de/~peter.gerwinski/ [970201] maintainer GNU Pascal [970510] - http://home.pages.de/~gnu-pascal/ [970125]
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Peter Gerwinski wrote:
According to Jan-Jaap van der Heijden:
This is cut from a message by Robert Hoehne to the DJGPP mailing lists. Read and weep ;-(
Is this about Turbo Vision for C or for Pascal?
If it's for C, it would be a catastrophy for RHIDE!
This is the remainder of the message by Robert Hoehne:
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From janjaap@zoo-station.student.utwente.nl Thu May 29 10:06:32 1997
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Hi all,
Because of some problems with Borland who has the copyright for the Turbo Vision library sources, I had to remove any archives from my site (and also from DJ's site and simtelnet) which include any original code from the Turbo Vison library. Sorry for this. Until I have not prepared the sources to use only diffs against the original sources from Borland they will not be available.
BTW: I do not understand it in all things, because the sources for the TV lib are still public available, but Borland said, that they should be downloaded only from their FTP-site and from nowhere else (and they are there, I checked it).
OK, I append to this post also the mail, which the maintainer of the Turbo Vison home page got. Onyone, who ist interested can send a mail there (or directly to Borland), maybe it helps.
Robert ***************************************************************** * Robert Hoehne, Fakultaet fuer Mathematik, TU-Chemnitz-Zwickau * * Post: Am Berg 3, D-09573 Dittmannsdorf * * e-Mail: Robert.Hoehne@Mathematik.TU-Chemnitz.DE * * WWW: http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~rho * *****************************************************************
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If it's for Pascal, it's still sad, but ...
According to ... hmmm ... Robert Hoehne or Eric Pesik?
[...] You may also distribute your own Turbo Vision patches and bug-fixes so long as it is limited to your own code. However, you may not distribute the Turbo Vision source code without permission from Borland.
What we can do is to patch Turbo Vision for use with GPC and to distribute the patch. The `GNU patch' program works very reasonably, and 90% of those who intend to use TV with GPC will be Borland customers who have the TV source anyway.
I have attempted to compile TVision with GPC, but it lacked to much object support. But with the recent interest in object-oriented and delphi-features, this may change.
Part of the reason Borland has not released Turbo Vision into the public domain is Turbo Vision remains an important and valuable feature of Borland's Turbo Pascal 7.0 for DOS, which is currently available from Borland.
That's a joke?
Turbo Pascal 7.0 is *dead* because it's no longer supported. That's one reson why we are working on GPC - a *living* compiler! What Borland still sells are parts of the corpse ... |~( <shudder>
A.F.A.I.K. BP7 is no longer supported, and you're "lucky" if you can find a copy that has been sitting on a shelve some place. But this person claims otherwise. He doesn't mention his position at Borland BTW.
Let us hope that they won't take away RHIDE from us! And let us work on something which will make the world forget that TV did ever exist! :-)
That won't happen, as far as I can see.
Greetings,
JanJaap
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