Hi peter downloaded the snapshot & cleaned out the old files here's the minor bugs ran into: 1. using CFLAGS="O2" the compile crashed in the same place as the previous snapshot: cc1 got fatal signal 6 [maths.o]Error1 while in the RTS subdirectory. compile ok without the CFLAGS 2. make looked for "ar" in wrong place: instead of /usr/bin looked at /usr/i586-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ar so put in a soft link to point to /usr/bin/ar and it worked 3. Didn't include --prefix=/usr/local so the install ended up in /usr/lib instead of /usr/local/lib moved i5* to /usr/local/lib/gcc* 4. either location gpc couldn't find the include files so moved /usr/local/lib/gcc*/i5*/2*/include/* to /usr/local/include and now works fine hope this helps thanks, Russ