CandiChat July 2002

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New Integrity dolls
by PBElch1508＠aol.com 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

Hi, I found 1 Global Peace Alysa at Walmart for $6.97 and she came home with me. I did see last year's Jordan, and last year's Alysa. I haven't found anything in Kmart except for the Heat Wave Janay. Maybe I need to go and take another look see. :) Phyllis in VA

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Fw: Candis on sale
by Eugene Bradford 27 Jul '02

27 Jul '02

Hi, all! I just received my Fifth Avenue Fortuny Candi from Paul David & she is a BEAUTY! (Not quite like to original photo in Candi magazine, but stunning none the less.) Jason has done a great job on her... Even the new Charice face is kind of cute. I bought one of the Holiday Classics & I like her very much. Anyway, if you are interested in Candi, Paul David is having a sale. Fifth Avenue Fortuny is only $19.99!!!!! Even with the Fedex shipping, that is cheap. I also found some cute dolls at Rite-Aid for only $5 that have several outfits. For that price, it's worth it just for the outfits even if you don't like the doll... And, if you are interested in Jakks Pacific GIRL FORCE dolls, try picketfence3 on ebay. She has baggie versions with really long hair that would be great to dress up. And dolls4emma makes homemade outfit that will fit her. I can definitely recommend the latter; I've bought several from her already. Melissa in MD

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FS: Alysa with new custom hairdo
by randall90＠juno.com 27 Jul '02

27 Jul '02

Hello lovelies, Well, I have been going through my dollies. I need to thin them out but I am having a very hard time talking myself out of anything! I did decide that I could sell a duplicate Alysa doll. She is very cute! This is Heat Wave Alysa (my favorite Alysa as of yet) with her hair restyled. Her hair has been cut shoulder length. It's not a blunt cut, it's razor cut so it won't look like it's just been lopped off. It has just the slightest flip towards the end. Please see the pic at: http://www.geocities.com/randall_90/tressy1full.jpg The doll only is for sale, $10.00. She's wearing the new Barbie FA called Center Stage in Cannes. If you buy the doll and want the outfit too (it's complete and has really cool new pointy shoes) I'll give it to you for cost! Thanks, Randall www.choic4guys.com randall(a)choic4guys.com

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OT Australia
by snadra＠powerup.com.au 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

For anything special it's usually easier to buy from the US because we can never be sure exactly what will turn up here or in what quantities. I am not doing much collecting these days - just enjoying what I have and slowly weeding through my vintage dolls to make more space. I got all my Gene's from the US but can now get stuff here through a friend who set up her own business. Candi I got from the US, way back when Lizie was solvent and then from Suzanne. Any Candi's I decided I didn't want sold like hotcakes here. Especially the old Mikelman baggies with the hair done up - that hair style alone guaranteed doll sales. People just didn't want to have to do the hair themselves. At least fashion doll collecting is acceptable now compared to when I started. People especially other doll people thought we were really wierd. Ah I remember the day I bought my first vintage Barbie ( which were very hard to find here in Brisbane cos there had been a bad flood in the'74 and most were washed or thrown away because of disease threats. I was nearly incoherent with joy - and butterflies in my stomach - I paid $30 Australian for a brunette Swirl! Way back in 1987 I think. Sorry for the long ramble! Sandra who is still around but doesn't get much time to write! > > From: Pat Hawkins <jhawkins1320(a)charter.net> > Subject: Re: OT Australia > Date: 21/07/2002 0:20:28 > To: Lunar <lunarwolfess(a)yahoo.com.au> > CC: Eugene Bradford <ebradfrd(a)crosslink.net>, > CandiChat <Candichat(a)dolls.de> > > How big is Barbie & Candi & such as Tyler Wentworth & Gene 'over there' > in Australia & how available? Do you have any sort of discount stores > such as our Walmarts? Where do you buy your dollies? You have doll > shows a lot don't you? Can you just get CAndi thru the mail? I heard > doll Collecting is big in your neck of the woods, but is it more so of > the porcelein type dolls? Pat Hawkins > > > This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au

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Re: Bratz Boys
by Eugene Bradford 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

Was someone on here looking for the Bratz boys? If so, check out Vicky's Web Page, www.vicky-web.com, at the bottom under News & Gossip for 7/23/02. About 1/4 way down is a message with photos of the Bratz Boys. I actually saw one of these guys at Target about a week ago. Melissa

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look!
by Rene O'Brien 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

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Re: look! And Many Questions from Pat Brown
by Mroczko 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Hi All, I think Pat makes a valid point by asking what the "adult" collectors market consists of, because not all adults collect dolls that would be aimed at the adult collector. I think at it's most basic the dolls are not designed to be "played" with, but then how do you explain the adults ( like me) who love to "play" with our dolls by redressing, restyling, and displaying in different situations? Plenty of adults are happy with playline dolls to redress and play with as well. For me, I must admit it is a mix. I buy some of the playline dolls to "play" with ( loved the Jam'n'Glam dolls and had to get one to fiddle with that hair!),but in general I look for a more sophisticated style of doll. Most of the time Barbie at her MOST sophisticated doesn't measure up to the class of Candy. I think her general exoticness ( in her case, much of it based on ethnicity) makes her a classier looking doll. The repaints look more like real people, and less like a doll as well. I always get a kick out of the choices that I make as well. Sometimes I swear I am going to get a doll to "play" with, and then I find myself just displaying her in her original outfit. I thought the holiday toast asian doll would be that way, and here it is July, and she is still dressed for the party. Flores Rosada, on the other hand, even when I ordered her, was a complete package, and I have yet to redress her. Will be interesting to see how I do with the Feline Formality doll. LOL Sometimes I think the longerie type dolls are a real boon, because they are easy to decide to redress. My brunette silkie changes her clothes often. Kathy M. with not enough time to play with dolls in the summer. At 11:31 AM 7/14/2002 -0400, you wrote: >For my money's worth, the makeup is reminiscent of the Asian Candi done by >Mikelman in 1996. What I mean by that is that makeup was heavy and made a >sensation because it was so obviously painted. Maybe the blue and pink >tones of the eyeshadow were over the top making the makeup was a bit >controversial for the times. > >So, when I see the screening on this particular Candi, I'm not overwhelmed >with awe, but I find what I see appealing. I would like to see the African >American with this screening. Is that photo available, too? > >What is the marketing direction that Candis are taking to set them apart >from Barbie Collectibles' dolls? What is the collector that is being >targeted? Rene and Robin, both, refer to something called the "adult" >collector. What defines an adult collector and why would Candi appeal to >this kind of collector that Silkstone Barbies wouldn't? Or why do both >kinds of dolls appeal to "adult" collectors? Just who and what is an adult >collector of FASHION dolls? > >Rene points out that the appeal these Candi dolls have is that they have an >"adult couture look that is different from more mundane looking dolls." Is >it possible that Candi dolls have never represented the mundane by virtue of >the ethnicities they've tried to capture? What else about them makes them >less mundane? > >I ask all these questions because my mind's eye is not so attuned to nuances >as it once was, and I'm hard-pressed to fully experience Candis today. It >could be that the way the dolls wowed me in 1996 has become mundane to me. >So I don't mean to throw cold water on any other collector's enthusiasn for >the dolls. How do any of you original Candi collectors maintain your >excitement for the dolls? And I know there a many of you still on this List >that can answer that question. Regards, Pat Brown >----- Original Message ----- > Frivolities Antiques Ft. Collins, CO

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Re: look! And Many Questions from Pat Brown
by randall90＠juno.com 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Well, I think that this Fashion Forward series represents Candi as a woman of high class, taste, and style. Certainly there are lots of pretty dolls out there, lots of things for different tastes but in my opinion not many dolls match up to these. Living in South Florida I am lucky enough to be around the wealthy and beautiful women, the super models, the famous people, etc. It is very rare that I see a doll that the hair, make-up, clothing, acessories all together represent (what I consider to be) impecible style. I think that Jason has done a remarkable job designing this collection of dolls. Then again, I know that a lot of people won't see what I do in these dolls. And, I would like to see if the quality of the clothing lives up to my expectations. Randall On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:31:04 -0400 "Pat Brown" <nqsqurtz(a)staffnet.com> writes: > For my money's worth, the makeup is reminiscent of the Asian Candi > done by > Mikelman in 1996. What I mean by that is that makeup was heavy and > made a > sensation because it was so obviously painted. Maybe the blue and > pink > tones of the eyeshadow were over the top making the makeup was a bit > controversial for the times. > > So, when I see the screening on this particular Candi, I'm not > overwhelmed > with awe, but I find what I see appealing. I would like to see the > African > American with this screening. Is that photo available, too? > > What is the marketing direction that Candis are taking to set them > apart > from Barbie Collectibles' dolls? What is the collector that is > being > targeted? Rene and Robin, both, refer to something called the > "adult" > collector. What defines an adult collector and why would Candi > appeal to > this kind of collector that Silkstone Barbies wouldn't? Or why do > both > kinds of dolls appeal to "adult" collectors? Just who and what is > an adult > collector of FASHION dolls? > > Rene points out that the appeal these Candi dolls have is that they > have an > "adult couture look that is different from more mundane looking > dolls." Is > it possible that Candi dolls have never represented the mundane by > virtue of > the ethnicities they've tried to capture? What else about them > makes them > less mundane? > > I ask all these questions because my mind's eye is not so attuned to > nuances > as it once was, and I'm hard-pressed to fully experience Candis > today. It > could be that the way the dolls wowed me in 1996 has become mundane > to me. > So I don't mean to throw cold water on any other collector's > enthusiasn for > the dolls. How do any of you original Candi collectors maintain > your > excitement for the dolls? And I know there a many of you still on > this List > that can answer that question. Regards, Pat Brown > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rene O'Brien <renendollz(a)yahoo.com> > To: pa_nz@ <pa_nz(a)yahoo.com>; Candi Dolls <candichat(a)dolls.de> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: look! > > > > I think in this case Integrity is trying something > > new, instead of giving us what we've seen before. The > > line is fantastic, IMO, I am picking two up when they > > arrive in the States. They dolls have a very adult > > "couture" look about them that is different from the > > more mundane looking dolls we've seen before. > > The amount of detail, and quality, the hair styles, > > and even the packaging of the New Integrity Candis are > > something not previously seen on the Candi line before > > Integrity took over, and I am glad to see our favorite > > gal being raised to a whole new level! > > > > Rene > > --- "pa_nz@" <pa_nz(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for sharing this, Rene. It's always good to > > > look at dolls that have been photographed so well. > > > The overall appearance of this dolls is quite > > > wonderful, it obviously has had a lot of thought and > > > artistry put into its making. She has a wonderful > > > sophisticated and glamorous look that appeals to the > > > adult collector, but frankly I'm not real crazy > > > about the exaggerated eye make-up. What do the rest > > > of you think? Will any of you buy her, and if so, I > > > assume the eye make-up would be part of the appeal, > > > but why? > > > Best to all > > > Robin > > > > > > Rene O'Brien <renendollz(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > http://www.xynadra.com/bbs/barbie/messages/5754.html > > > > > > Rene > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited > > access > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > Randall www.choic4guys.com randall(a)choic4guys.com

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How Ironic
by k 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Hi everyone, I had to write in about this one - just last week we were talking about clothes being "sewn on" and I said I had never heard of it. Well, in my last order from Paul David I received a "bag" of gowns and coats. Joyce at PD asked me if I wanted a "bag" and I said yes - it was only $2.50!!!! When I got them out of the bag there were three beautiful gowns, extremely full, one in gold, one in red and one in green. I also got 3 beautiful "velvet" evening Coats. When I went to try one of the gowns on I was so stunned to see that they were about 1 inch apart too small and the back wouldn't close. What I couldn't get over was that the tags inside said they were strickly for Candi. The gowns are so gorgeous I don't want to waste them so I guess I'll have to sew them on. Isn't that ironic?? Just talking about it and now I am going to try and do it! LOL I'll keep you posted on my new project, Karla

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Re: New Integrity Janay/Ken FA
by Eugene Bradford 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

Hi, all! I found Kathy's FA for Ken at WalMart today. The pants are really nice & I like the sweater, too. Now to get Ken as Rhett out of storage so I can dress him up. I also found my first new Integrity dolls on the shelves at Walmart. They had 2 Embassy Ball Janays-beautiful & very ethnic with her flocked hair at $6.97. (Didn't buy that one as Suzanne is holding one for me.) But, I did buy one of the new Janay face-Global Peace Janay. Gorgeous face & great shorts, kind of like the Paleontologist Barbie's neat outfit. The Global Peace Alysa didn't do much for me; neither did the Janay with the animal. But, I am now getting excited about all the other ones I DID order from Suzanne. Can't wait 'til they all get here... Melissa

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