Hi, So what is the status of gdb? It seems to work with Pascal, but it does not seem to be able to display String()'s and I could not figure out how to use "call" to call CFShow (Apple says: call (void)CFShow(cf) but that just gives a syntax error). (CFShow is a debugging routine that prints out the decoded value of the input parameter). And print S gives: $1 = (&$$1 = record ) @$bffff7c0: <incomplete type> Thanks, Peter. -- <http://www.interarchy.com/> <http://documentation.interarchy.com/>